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Cream of The Crate: Album review # 135 – Various Artists: So You Wanna Be A Rock & Roll Star Volume 1



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Album Cover – [CLICK to enlarge]


  This review was originally posted on the first Toorak Times web site where publications ceased on that site in March 2017. The old site will be permanently closed in 2020 and these reviews are being re-published in order to preserve them on the current Toorak Times/Tagg site.




"It all happened so fast and was over so quick nobody really understood it ” - (Glenn A Baker - liner notes) . . . "One of the few comprehensive various-artists documents of the mid-'60s Australian rock scene." - (AllMusic) . . . "Without doubt an essential purchase for anyone with a serious interest in Australian music of the '60s." - (Milesago)

This is album retro-review number 135 in the series of retro-reviews of both vinyl and Cd albums in my collection.

The series is called
“Cream of The Crate” and each review represents an album that I believe is of significant musical value, either because of it’s rarity, because it represents the best of a style or styles of music or because there is something unique about the group or the music.

The first fifty reviews were vinyl only, and the second fifty reviews were CD’s only. Links to these reviews can be found at the bottom of this page. From review 101 onward I have mixed vinyl and CD albums and, try and present an Australian album every fifth review!

I check out a very interesting double album from my collection in this retro-review, it features an amazing range of Australian Artists from the years 1964 to 1966.

The album has the title So You Wanna Be A Rock and Roll Star Volume 1 – The Scream Years Of Australian Rock 1964 – 1966.

It is a compilation album put out on the Festival label in 1975 and has the code L-45587.

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Album label – [CLICK to enlarge]


It’s a double vinyl LP in a gatefold cover and was according to the cover notes, “conceived, researched & compiled by Glenn A.Baker. The album has 32 tracks, eight per side and covers some of the absolutely best known artists that recorded on the Festival label during the years 1964 – 1966, as well as some rare and unheard of groups.

I would have thought the album the sub-title could better have described the period as “The Beat Years” rather than “The Scream Years“, but that was Bakers prerogative!

What is very interesting about this set is both the inclusion of some most excellent bands from this period, and some that largely went under the radar.

Now it is 45 years since the albums release and for all intents and purposes 56 years since the tracks were recorded, so what it does is to provide a fascinating and well deserved historical record of what was a crucial period in the development of Australian music.


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LHS Inner sleeve cover – [CLICK to enlarge]
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RHS Inner sleeve cover- [CLICK to enlarge]

The gatefold nature of the album provides us with the opportunity of being provided a reasonable summation of the group and the track and some historical context.

It may or may not have been seen at the time as being an important historical record of the music of this time, and I can only conclude this because it really deserved, no it really demanded, a decent full sized booklet.

While the inside covers do provide reasonable information, more info and certainly pictures of the artists and groups could have accompanied the album if a booklet had been produced.

As it is, we have to be happy with a collage of pictures as presented on the rear of the cover.


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Rear Cover: Track Listing – [CLICK to enlarge]


Track Listing

NORMIE ROWE & THE PLAYBOYS – Tell him I’m not home
TONY WORSLEY & BLUEJAYS – Just a little bit
MIKE FURBER & THE BOWERY BOYS- You stole my love
JEFF ST. JOHN & THE ID – Lindy Lou
RAY HOFF & THE OFFBEATS – Let’s go, let’s go, let’s go

CHRIS HALL & THE TORQUAYS – Don’t ask me why
GLEN INGRAM & THE HI-FIVE – Skye boat song
VINCE MALONEY SECT – She’s a yum yum
STEVE & THE BOARD – The giggle eyed goo
PURPLE HEARTS – Early in the morning
DELLTONES – Hey girl, don’t bother me
EXECUTIVES – Wander boy

AMAZONS – Ain’t that lovin’ you baby
SUNSETS – When I found you
RAJAHS – Kiss me now
BLACK DIAMONDS – See the way
BLUE BEATS – She’s coming home
POGS – The Pog’s theme
MORLOCH – Every night
MYSTRYS – Witch girl

SHOWMEN – Don’t deceive
LOST SOULS – This life of mine
THE FIVE – Bright lights, big city
THE A SOUND – Tomorrow I met you
KEVIN BIBLE & THE BOOK – Rockin’ pneumonia & the boogie woogie flu
BLUES RAGS ‘N’ HOLLERS – I just want to make love to you


As is usually the case when reviewing compilations that have history attached, choosing tracks from what is usually strong line-ups is very difficult.

Side One of album one is a prime example of this, with six artists that back in that period, that not only audiences but myself and the young muso’s I hung around had great respect for.

So much good music  took the easy way out and simply decided to focus on tracks 1 and 2.

Track number one kicks off with one of Australia’s most revered rockers, if not power rockers, Billy Thorpe, or “Thorpie” as he became affectionately known in later years.

But we need to understand that in 1964/65 Billy and his group were marketed in the image of the British style of presentation, with suits, ties, long hair and very neat.

 theThey certainly epitomised “beat” style rather than the “rock” style of music that we were all trying pretty hard to move away from.

The choice of Poison Ivy was an interesting one as the track had already been made famous by the Coasters in 1959, in fact reaching number 1 in the R&B charts and number 7 in the Billboard Hot 100 chart.

It was already covered by a number of British groups including the well known version by the Rolling Stones, a slightly lesser known version by the Dave Clark V and in fact, even the Hollies had released a version – all before Billy Thorpe.

So while there is no doubt that the version released by Billy and the Aztecs was immensely popular, there certainly was an element of risk with so many versions already on the market.

Incidentally, it would be covered no less than twenty two times over subsequent years.

The Aztecs, consisting of drummer Col Baigent, bassist John “Bluey” Watson and guitarists Valentine Jones and Vince Maloney.

They formed early in 1963 in Sydney and initially were predominantly a surf instrumental group.

With the sudden surge of everything British, they quickly approached local singer Billy Thorpe who joined them, and then shortly after Jones left the group to be replaced by Tony Barber.

By mid 1964 they had recorded and released Poison Ivy and it quickly shot to the top of the charts giving the group instantaneous national popularity.

So big was the track that it famously kept The Beatles from the No. 1 spot on the Sydney charts which was a major accomplishment, only magnified by the fact that the Beatles were actually touring Australia at the time.

So impressed were the Beatles that they invited Thorpe to meet them at their hotel.

It was indeed a massive hit! #1 in Sydney, #1 in Melbourne, #1 in Brisbane, #2 in Adelaide and #1 in Perth.

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Baigent, Barber, Thorpe, Maloney & Watson – [CLICK to enlarge]

There is no underestimating the importance of Billy Thorpe and the Aztecs to the development of the music scene in Australia.

It is somewhat of an indication of his already growing popularity and his brilliance that when he left the group in 1965, and returned in 1969 not only as lead singer but as lead guitarist, he would front the Aztecs though their most brilliant musical period.

This started in 1969 and kept going until the group disbanded in 1973. Yet, all that success and adulation really started with this Leiber & Stoller composition – Poison Ivy!

Poison Ivy

Almost 12 months after Poison Ivy was released, a track by the name of Pride (August 1965) was released by Ray Brown and The Whispers.

This is track number two and it was the second track released by the group and it charted well across Australia.

The Whispers started out as (yet another) instrumental group called The Impacts and were playing around Sydney in 1961/62. Late in 1962 they evolved into the Nocturnes a more “Shadows” like band consisting of the core members of the future WhispersJohn Manners, guitarist Lawrie Barclay and drummer Pat Jeffrey.

Like the Aztecs, the sudden impact of the British beat music meant that the days of the pure instrumental groups was coming to a rapid end. Now Brown was actually an unknown singer, in fact better known as an amateur footballer, but he connected with the Nocturnes.

As a result they then changed their name in the manner of popular groups from Britain like Gerry & The Pacemakers and Brian Poole & The Tremeloes; to become Ray Brown & The Whispers.


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Now Ray certainly didn’t have a “power” voice like Thorpe, a beautiful “gravel tone” like Max Merritt or even an “entertaining” voice like Tony Worsley (who is on this album).

But he did have a pleasant voice with a decent upper register and his voice was unique enough to stand out in a period when there were many similar bands vying for recognition.

In fact the group had its first five singles chart brilliantly and Pride went to #1 Sydney, #6 Melbourne, #2 Brisbane, #1 Adelaide & #2 Perth. It is generally considered that of all their hits, Pride was the best.

It was actually a cover of a rather obscure track that was released by one of those British groups I was talking about earlier – Billy J. Kramer and The Dakota’s – but while it was a non-event for that group, it was a brilliant success for Ray and The Whispers.

I think it is not inaccurate to describe it as a rollicking track with a good medium tempo push that was very popular on the dance floors.


There really isn’t a “dud” track on side 1, even the relative “lightweight” Johnny Young deserves his place on this album and, while the likes of Mike Furber is not in the same league as Jeff St. John (and the Id), along with Ray Hoff and Tony Worsley, it makes side one a very strong side.

Turning LP number one over to side two, we certainly have lesser known “lights” such as Chris Hall, Glenn Ingram and the Executives, yet all three providing tracks that were enjoyed in their time.

The Delltones must be considered as “royalty” on this side and their harmonies have thrilled audiences for years.

I passed them by because I have discussed them in several album reviews previously and besides, I couldn’t go passed tracks number five and six.

I chose as my first track, track number five by Steve and The Board.

Now this was an interesting group!

Giggle Eyed Goo wasn’t exactly a memorable track and if I hadn’t met the guys and spent some time with them talking about the development of Blues music way back in those days, I would have written them off as light-weights.

Musically in terms of what they released they were, but I guess they made the choice to stay light-weight rather than draw upon their extensive blues music knowledge.

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Steve and The Board


Look the track may have been a “comedy” track, and dear old dad, Nat Kipner, may have paved the way for his son Steve Kipner, the lead singer, to bring his mates in and do some recording.

You see dear old dad was a shareholder, a director and A&R manager (1966 – 1967; interestingly the period the boys recorded) at the Spin label company and well, you can fill in the gaps!

But they have to be remembered for the for-runners of the all time best “punk” track title, when they recorded (at Spin of course), the track “I Call My Woman Hinges Cause She’s Something To Adore“!

Giggle Eye Goo

The second track was, in card terms, an utter “lay down misere”!

That is to say, it absolutely self-selects as it is so obvious.

Track number six is so unlike the previous track by Steve and The Board, it is absolutely a polar opposite. To start with these guys really were top muso’s.

The group was Brisbane’s Purple Hearts. Fronted by the brilliant Mick Hadley the group at the time this track was recorded, comprised of Barry Lyde (known as Lobby Loyde), rhythm guitarist Fred Pickard, bassist Bob Dames, and drummer Adrian ‘Red’ Redmond.

Tony Cahill would join not long after, replacing Redmond as the groups drummer.

They are often labeled as Australia’s first Garage band.


This was no “garage band”, these guys could play and were really admired and respected by all their peers. If Hadley’s amazing voice wasn’t enough, they had the man who was thought of as our guitar god, as our “Eric Clapton” – Lobby Loyde.

Lobby could play like a man possessed, not just speed-wise, but with energy and passion. I remember seeing the group at Melbourne’s Thumping Tum in the late 1960’s, and Lobby when his cigarette wasn’t hanging out of the side of his mouth, had it stuck on the end of an uncut guitar string.

He was cool personified.

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Purple Hearts – [CLICK to enlarge]


The track is Early In The Morning.

This is a “traditional” blues track, whose origins are still disputed. When the Purple Hearts bought it out, it stunned everyone.

The audiences had never heard anything like it before, the radio stations were totally confused and the rest of us knew, we were listening to music waaaay ahead of its time. It was heavy, it was kind of blues, it smacked of drugs, it was totally experimental!

Even today I listen to this track in utter amazement. Personally, in my mind this is THE track of the entire album!

Early In The Morning

LP number 1 is sub-titled “The Stars“, which simply reflects that these artists were either well known, or had well known “hits”.

LP number 2 is sub-titled “The Punks“.

What a poor choice of a descriptor, particularly as the Punk movement didn’t come until the following decade.

It seems to me that it is more appropriate to think of these ten artists as “The Wanna Be’s“.

VERY few of these artists got much airplay or drew big crowds, so, does it matter which tracks are featured?

Sure it does, as there are actually some gems hidden away on the two sides of LP number 2.

You only need to go back to the track listing at the beginning of this review to re-check who they were, but on side one of album 2, I’m stopping at track numbers one and ten – the first and the last tracks.

The opening track is by a group called The Amazons and was recorded in 1966.

Now the track is credited to “Malone”!

Sorry guys, this is an old Jimmy Reed track, no matter how you disguise it with one of the worse harmonica intro’s I have ever heard recorded.

As the liner notes say. “What do two teenage sons of a lady that runs a booking agency do to pass the time? They form a pop group of course.

Mrs Carroll must have been proud of young Chris and Dally as they worked themselves up from a state of unknown to a state of total insignificance.”

OK, that’s hardly a glowing endorsement of the boys and their music.

But there are other members of this group, and one of them was Harry Bruce who went on to play with notable groups Copperwine and Blackfeather.

As far as I can determine The Amazons was his first group, and while he may have come to regret that they left a legacy of poor blues playing, another member of the group – Johnny Caves, probably regrets it even more.

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The Amazons


Johnny Caves!

Oh! You probably know him, or may remember him as William Shakespeare.

this track or rather, the group name does reminds us, is that there were many many “Amazons” all around Australia.

All had young boys with stars in their eyes all trying to become famous.

So yes, it is rough and ready, but it was the music that was being listened to in the small halls around the suburbs, while the “Stars”, played in the city venues.

Aint That Loving You Baby

We move past the Sunsets who are mostly memorable for one member – Lindsay Bjerre who eventually reformatted the group into Tamam Shud.

We overlook The Rajahs who were one of the countries first full-on Beatles imitators.

Next comes The Black Diamonds who actually had two charting tracks, but under two different names.

We then move to the Blue Beats who actually got to play on a Rolling Stones concert, and beats me how!

Track number six brings us to The Pogs, who despite their attempt to look and play “working class”, were actually architecture students from the well to do Sydney area of Mosman.

Now these boys had the support of a young man from Britain called Pete Best (yes, THE Pete Best).

They were actually were on the edge of success but it just didn’t happen despite having a singer by the name of Rory O’Donghue who did go onto bigger things, including having a number 1 hit about a “lady” who ripped peoples arms off.

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Sadly Rory died in December of 2017.





The penultimate group on this side are The Morloch, who were a Sydney group used by a promoter – Mark Royal, to backup his main protege Johnny Fancypants.

Unfortunately Fancypants did not become a household name. Disgusted Royal left the country, so the Morloch sent out press releases saying they were certainly were not disbanding, then to totally confuse everyone, promptly disbanded.

So to track number ten.

The group is The Mysterys and the track is Witch Girl.

Having been totally overlooked and completely embracing obscurity in Melbourne, these boys donned hoods to cover their faces, and set forth to conquer Sydney.

The big problem was that Sydney were choking on clandestine groups in fact, there were at one point four different versions of a group called the Mysterians and another group called The Mystics!

Either Sydney had its fill of masked groups, or just became confused as to who was whom, so in disgust the group folded, going their own way probably believing they were way ahead of their time.

I loved Bakers comment, when he writes, “Their identities beg (although the liner notes say ‘bag’) to be revealed, but I really can’t bring myself to do it. They would have wanted it this way.”

I don’t have that problem. They were:

  • Lead Guitarist – Ziggy Zapata
  • Rhythm Guitarist – Kevin Thomas
  • Bass Guitarist – Charlie Bayliss
  • Drummer (first) – Malcolm McPhee
  • Drummer (second) – John Lake
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The Mystrys


What about the track?

It’s almost secondary to the story, yet it’s actually not a bad track for its time (May 1966).

It even has some cheesy but neat semi-electronic effects to suggest, to the suggestible, that this is weird “witch” music.

It is worth checking out!

Witch Girl

So to side two of LP 2 – and it was surprising and a delight to find some lost gems on this side.

Track one features the Showmen, who for a brief moment really had their “place in the spot-light”.

In the first Battle of the bands in Sydney in 1965 they actually leapt onto the stage while one of their 57 competitors were playing, and wearing the latest Mersey gear threw themselves into first place with some half decent playing, a lot of silly antics which ended up winning them a spot on the touring Dave Clarke 5 tour.

But that still didn’t get them featured in this review.

I could not go past track number two which is a New Zealand group by the name of The Librettos.

These boys had had a very polished sound with the 1966 track – Kicks, which actually has a very infectious lead line throughout the track.

Having taken up residency in Melbourne they quickly gained popularity and Kicks was actually their 3rd single.

Unlike many of the groups on side two of album number 2 – mainly well meaning, hard trying “wanna be’s” – these guys were classy musicians.

First and foremost was Brian Peacock who played bass and had a great voice. The group also had good drummer in Dave Diver, an excellent keyboard player/singer in Lou Parun and had Rod Stone on guitar.

However they couldn’t quite make that final jump into being a top group, and with the band’s spirits somewhat dampened, Peacock and Stone were tempted away with an offer to back Normie Rowe in a re-vamped Playboys line up.

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Librettos – [CLICK to enlarge]


Finally Peacock joined Procession and Stone the Groove.


The Lost Souls, track 3, were just that.

Sure they had the courage to write their own material but the best reason for remembering them was their bass player, who would become an absolute legend of the Australian music scene.

His name – Bill Putt!

Track 4 features a group called The Five and they were from Brisbane and like a lot of “blues based” groups of this period, drew upon the likes of Jimmy Reed.

Their contribution to this album is a passable version of Bright Lights Big City.

Track 5 is dedicated to the Sydney group – The A Sound with Tomorrow I Meet You. Fronted by a young Doug Parkinson we could be forgiven for believing with Parkinson in the group, it would have been a successful group.

It wasn’t!

The following track is a ripper!

Kevin Bible and The Book with Rockin’ Pneumonia.

Now the track was a great rendition of the Huey “Piano” Smith’s track, and should have actually made the hit charts if not for a certain church owned Sydney radio station that had a lot of clout, banning it, claiming it was sacrilegious.

In terms of the group membership, only one member is worth mentioning and he went onto bigger things with Khavus Jute and other very good groups.

His name? Dennis Wilson.

That leaves the penultimate group for this final side, and that is Jimmy Crocket & The Shanes

I put my hand up, as I had never heard of this group prior to getting this album.

Remember track 1 on this side, The Showmen? Well these guys were runners up to the Showmen in that battle of the bands, and walked away with £50.00 and a recording contract.

Having released this track, Lovin’ Touch, in 1965 and flushed with excitement, they put out a press release that said, “The band has been together for 15 months now but we haven’t given up our day jobs yet!”

I echo Bakers comment – “Just as well.”

The final track is by a very good Adelaide outfit, Blues Rags ‘N” Hollers.

These boys had done their blues homework and were  a very respected blues based band in and around Adelaide and, they could play.

The group consisting of:
ANDY WILKINSON – Vocals and Harmonica

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The biggest problem they faced was that they were in direct competition with groups such as The Twilights and The Masters Apprentices.

Now these two groups ere not only emulating great music from overseas, but were writing their own material and simply outclassed what was, a very good group.

The track is, I Just Wanna Make Love To You, by Willie Dixon which was a track covered so brilliantly by the Stones one year prior to this release, in 1966.

The Blues Rags ‘N” Hollers version is a gutsy well played version, but they just didn’t have that, that “certain something”, and they quickly faded into obscurity.

Now over 50 years later we get the chance to listen back to a decent suburban Aussie group playing their cover of an even greater blues track.

I Just Wanna Make Love To You

So with any number of Australian music compilations on the market, is it that this one is better than most?

Yes! it is because it has a set of decent liner notes, it has an excellent smattering of top line acts, middle of the road and the hard working, well meaning but fast disappearing ‘pretenders’.

As crazy as it may sound, these groups need to be remembered as not only were the basis for many fine groups that followed, they were typical of the thousands of small groups that formed, broke up, reformed and disappeared as the decade moved on.

Sure the album only covers the period 1964 – 1966, but this was a very important period when the Australian music scene was finding its feet and shaping itself for a future that would come.

The album is a nice gatefold double album, and with 40 groups it really is good value for money.

It is the vinyl set that is the collectable, and, there are copies around. Discogs have a few scattered around the world and you can expect to pay only around $50,00 plus postage.

THAT is a bargain!

However for those of you who are not vinyl collectors, this set is available on CD along with the companion Volume, So You Wanna Be A Rock ‘n’ Roll Star Volume 2 – The Psychedelic Years of Australian Rock 1967 – 1970.

I will review this album in four reviews time.

NOTE: Be aware that there is an American album set with the same title, so if you are shopping around for this Australian album, check carefully what you are buying.


There are far too many tracks on this album to try and provide a clip of each, and because the artists on album number 2 never “made it”, there are no known clips of them.

So I have provided some clips from album number 1. Then I discovered that very few live clips of the tracks on album number 1 exist, so I have at least provided clips of the artists from the same period.

Incidentally, I discovered that Mick Hadley had actually put an original clip of the Purple Hearts doing Early In The Morning on Youtube – how could I resist?


Ray Brown and the Whispers – Pride


Normie Rowe – Tell Him I’m Not Home


Mike Furber – You Stole My Love


Jeff St John and The Id – Stupidity


Purple Hearts – Early In The Morning


Previous Cream of The Crate Albums:


To view/listen the first 50 vinyl album reviews just click the image below –

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To view/listen the first 50 Cd album reviews just click the image below –


Click to open the following Vinyl reviews from 101 onward:

#101:  Bo Diddley – Bo Diddley’s Beach Party (Live)

#102:  Les Paul and Mary Ford – The World Is waiting For The Sunrise

#103:  Captain Beefheart – Trout Mask Replica

#104:  Los Fronterizos – Misa Creole

#105:  Bobby Bright – Child Of Rock And Roll

#106:  The  Nylons – One Size Fits All

#107:  Jimmy Cliff – The Harder They Come [Soundtrack from the film]

#108:  Paul Simon – Graceland

#109.  The Ventures – The Very Best Of

#110.  The Pardoners – Indulgences

#111.  Atlantic R&B: Volumes 1 – 3 [1947 to 1957] 

#112.  Atlantic R&B Volumes 4 & 5 [1957 – 1965]

#113.  Roots of Rock: Vol.12 – Union Avenue Breakdown

#114.  David Fanshawe – African Sanctus

#115.  A Reefer Derci – Various Artists

#116.  Dr. John – Ske-Dat-De-Dat: The Spirit of Satch

#117.  The Walker Brothers – The Walker Brothers

#118.  Peter Gabriel – Peter Gabriel

#119.  Curved Air – Airconditioning

#120.  The Delltones – The Best of The Delltones

#121.  Hound Dog Taylor – Hound Dog Taylor and The Houserockers

#122.  Bessie Smith – Queen of The Blues

#123.  The Shadows – The Shadows Greatest Hits

#124.  Gil Scott Heron – Reflections

#125.  The Dingoes – Five Times The Sun

#126.  Bert Jansch and John Renbourn – Bert and John

#127.  Nat King Cole – The Complete After Midnight Sessions

#128.  Various Artists – The Rock and Roll Collection [A Box Set]

#129.  Sam Cooke – 16 Most Requested Songs

#130.  Various Artists – Australian Rock Heritage Vol.1

#131:  Wilson Pickett – The Exciting Wilson Pickett

#132.  Martha and The Vandellas – Greatest Hits

#133.  Van Morrison – The Best Of

#134.  The Marvelettes – Greatest Hits

Rob Greaves
I have been with the Toorak Times since April 2012. I work as Senior Editor of the Toorak Times, but I also think of myself as senior contributor. I've been in the Australian music scene as a musician since 1964, and have worked in radio and TV and newspapers (when they were paper ), serious experience in audio editing, and a lot of video editing experience. Currently I'm working as a radio program producer for a national interview program as well as my work with the Toorak Times